Dear Tim. Not sure if I posted already. Bit confusing. Anyway im writing again.. I salute you Tim. Keep up the good fight. I’m shocked, disillusioned and very disappointed about the pope being forced to resign. Half of me wants to just walk away from our Lords Church in despair. But you give me strength. My name is Paul Bright. I’m the person mentioned in the post about Bosnia and Croatia NCW seminaries. I was treated terribly but thank God I escaped. My name has been blackened but I can’t complain. Those poor boys on Guam beung abused is worse. Tim you fight for the truth which is noble. I also won’t hide behind a false name. The truth is the truth. I except no apology or justice in this life. But i am standing with you in the Truth. Because that is the right thing to do. Stand firm Tim. The truth will prevail even if it goes to the eleventh hour. I pity all those who live without love. My captures and abusers I forgive you. I pray that you come to your senses.. I hope our church stands up Tim. Stands up and shows the world that problems exist everywhere. Except in the light where God is love, mercy and peace. Our Church is that light. I hope it shines Brighty in 2017..I’m only some guy in the UK Tim. But I’m standing with you and your friends in Guam.
FROM GUAM: “THE DESTRUCTION OF THIS HERETIC MOVEMENT”
“Imam nekakav osjećaj da iz ovog malog i zaboravljenog otoka počinje destrukcija Neokatekumenskog puta i da će kao val preplaviti sva mjesta koja je taj heretički pokret osvojio u proteklih 50 godina.”
Nevezano za temu posta, ali imam pitanje:
Mislim da je NP sekta koja parazitira na tijelu Katoličke Crkve i da vrvi doktrinarnim, liturgijskim i moralnim zastranjenjima.
Međutim, vidimo da u KC neznatna manjina to misli. Većina klera (od pape naniže) ne protivi se NP-u. Naprotiv, mnogi ga podržavaju.
Znači li to da su i oni koji podupiru NP zastranili, upali u krivovjerje?
Kako razumjeti ovu situaciju u KC?
Pitam vas jer me iskreno zanima tuđe mišljenje.
Dobro kazete. Neokatekumenski put nije samo “parazit” unutar Katolicke crkve nego, oprostite na ovakvoj formulaciji, “silovatelj katolickih dusa”. Nije toliko vazan niti novac niti drugo “blago” koje si prisvajaju dok Crkvena hierarhija suti i promatra, no ono sto je nedopustivo i sto jest veliki grijeh propusta svih koji vide i razumiju sto se dogadja (a ne djeluju!) odnosi se na psiholoske, duhovne i emotivne traume s kojima se ljudi bore godinama nakon sto se udalje od te sekte (pod uvijetom da im to uspije). Za to je izravno odgovoran Vatikan tj. “progresivni biskupi”, nitko drugi. Papa Franjo je na zatvaranju Godine milosrdja izjavio kako “Bog ne pamti grijehe”, ali Rijec Bozja je vrlo jasna:”Zaista kazem vam: Sto niste ucinili jednomu od ovih najmanjih, to niste ucinili meni. Ovi ce uci u muku vjecnu, a pravednici u zivot vjecni.” (Matej 25, 45-46). Da me se krivo ne shvati, nikome ne prizivam nikakvo zlo, nego samo zelim reci da Neokatekumenski put nije usputna ni slucajna pogreska jer haraju Katolickom crkvom vise od pola stoljeca, i zbog toga ce Bog sigurno nekoga pozvati na odgovornost.
S druge strane, Crkvu tj. Tijelo Kristovo ne cine samo svecenici nego i laici, koji su neusporedivo brojniji od “progresivnih buskupa”… ali su ili uspavani, ili nemarni, ili u strahu pa vecina ne cini nista. No u laicima lezi ogromna Snaga Duha Svetoga koja se u mnogim zupama vec pokrenula u smjeru otpora Neokatekumenskoj obmani, samovolji, herezi i teroru. Sigurno ce u buducnosti toga biti i vise kako Istina bude izlazila na vidjelo. Zato je vazno govoriti u javnosti o tom problemu, a ne gurati glavu u pjesak i iznositi lazna svjedocanstva, kako su to poceli ciniti neki nasi svecenici zeleci biti “politicki korektni”. To kod Gospodina ne prolazi.
Neokatekumenima se treba reci jasno za sve vijeke vijekova da su slobodni vjerovati i ciniti sto god zele, ali ne u okrilju Katolicke crkve. Neka budu nova denominacija i podizu sebi velebne vile i hramove, no mi s tim nemamo nista. Ukoliko, pak, zele biti dio Katolicke crkve, onda moraju prihvatiti nasu tradiciju i doktrinu bez pokusaja unosenja ikakvih izmjena na svoju ruku. Njihovi svecenici se mogu laicizirati ili poslati na dodatno skolovanje, ali moraju prije toga svojevoljno prihvatiti Katolicku vjeru i valjano se zarediti. Tek tada cemo i mi njih moci prihvatiti kao prave pastire.
Treba ostati blizu Gospodinu i pokazati odlucnost u ovoj duhovnoj borbi te zajedno sa pravovjernim svecenicima “krenuti u napad”, i molitvom i argumentima i svjedocanstvima. Kako vidimo, na Guamu su upravo izgubili bitku zahvaljujuci ispravnoj strategiji tamosnjih Katolika. Uz Bozju pomoc, sve se moze okrenuti na dobro. Samo se ova, da upotrijebim rijeci Pape Benedikta XVI, “duhovna revolucija” vise ne smije odgadjati jer zrtve su sve vece i brojnije.
Kad je nadbiskup koadjutor, Michael Jude Byrnes, potpisao dokumente kojima vraća punu kontrolu nad posjedom Redemptoris Mater sjemeništa u Yoni, on je također prekinuo povezanost Sjemeništa s Neokatekumenskim putom time što je osigurao da će se bogoslovi pripremati za svećeništvo prema uredbama Svete Rimo-katoličke vjere. NASTAVAK.
Nota: Baš je prikladno da smo se probudili s tom viješću na Apuronov rođendan!
piše LaPaz, dopisnik za Jungle Watch iz Španjolske
Dobro je poznato kako je Kiko Argüello moderni renesansni čovjek. Bavi se gotovo svim ljudskim aktivnostima: slikanjem, arhitekturom, dizajnom, glazbom, pisanjem… I sve što dotakne pretvara u zlato.
A) BARCHENU AVINU – THE FATHER IS IN HEAVEN
1. Kiko: El Padre está en el cielo
2. Shlomo Carlebach – 7/13 שלמה קרליבך – ברכנו אבינו Barchenu Avinu
B) ERETZ Zavat Halav – GRACIAS A YAHVEH
2. Mike Brant – Nana Mouskouri “Erev shel Shoshanim” Version
I) SIMAN TOV – SANTO
1. Kiko: Santo Hebreo
Author: Veritas in: http://cruxsancta.blogspot.com.es/2016/10/la-musica-del-cnc-es-de-kiko.html
Postovani, Vasi napori da prosvijetlite hrvatsku javnost i iznosite istinu o Neokatekumenskom putu, tj. putu koji vodi nezamislivo duhovno robstvo. Nazalost, u javnosti se primjecuje da dva mlada svecenika, Damir Stojic i Marko Glogovic, u posljednje vrijeme svojski promoviraju Neokatekumenski put u Hrvatskoj (evo jedna poveznica za primjer http://www.rastimougospodinu.com/index.php/vjernicke-udruge-i-zajednice/1247-karizmatici-i-neokatekumeni-u-crkvi-imaju-najbolju-mogucu-pouku-za-gresnike.html), iako se iz njihovih izjava vidi da nisu upoznati s tom stvarnoscu niti su svjesni odgovornosti koju imaju kada ovako javno govore u neznanju, a pogotovo kada mlade prakticki nagovaraju na ulazak u takvu sektu. Stoga Vase pitanje nije samo sto uciniti s prezbiterima na Guamu, nego sto uciniti s ovim tastim i neupucenim prezbiterima iz Hrvatske, kojima je stecena slava ocito udarila u glavu pa vise ne razlikuju protestantizam od katolicanstva kao ni djela Sotonu od onih Duha Svetoga.
CNMI odvjetnik ima pravo:
Inzistiranjem na tome da Put nije pokret nego takozvani “itinerarij” odgoja odraslih u vjeri, Kiko se uspio kao lisica uvući u crkvene strukture tako da je Put podredio samo biskupima. Jednog biskupa je puno lakše dobiti i kontrolirati nego papinsko vijeće. Kako nisu podređeni nekom središnjem vatikanskom uredu, Kiko i njegov Put su slobodni ustanoviti svoje institucije gdjegod mogu prevariti nekog biskupa. Tu je Kiko bio genije. U svijetu postoji skoro 3000 katoličkih biskupija. Stoga, ustanovljujući Neokatekumenski put kao biskupijski “itinerarij odgoja u vjeri”, a ne kao laički pokret, Kiko je multiplicirao svoje šanse za uspjeh 3000 puta!
Following is the statement give to the media today regarding the Yona Property by the members of the Archdiocesan Finance Council who Apuron fired in 2012.
Statement Concerning Yona Property
August 31, 2016
Download PDF copy here
We, the former members of the Archdiocesan Finance Council (who were terminated en masse by Archbishop Apuron), along with Deacon Steve Martinez, who was the Finance Officer during our tenure, make the following statements.
Since we were terminated in January 2012, certain statements by Fr. Pius Sammut, current Rector of the Redemptoris Mater Seminary and the Chief Catechist of the Neo Catechumenate Way in Guam, Archbishop Apuron, Fr. Adrian Cristobal, the former Chancellor, and Fr. Edivaldo da Silva Oliveira, the former Archdiocesan Media Relations Person, all members of the Neo Catechumenal Way, have surfaced in various public publications about the role we took in the purchase in 2002 of the property formerly known as Accion Hotel located in Yona, upon which the Redemptoris Mater Seminary(RMS) now occupies; and our role in the subsequent transfer by this archdiocese of the Yona property to the RMS corporation, a separate legal entity, controlled by the movement known as the Neo Catechumenal Way (NCW), that operates the seminary.
In light of the recent statements made by Fr. Pius Sammut and Archbishop Apuron, we have collectively concluded that, enough is enough, it is time to set the record straight.
We were there. We were intimately privy to the transactions, as our input, analysis, and approval were all required by Canon Law for any transaction to occur. We know what happened. Fr. Pius was not directly involved. Fr. Adrian was not directly involved. Fr. Edivaldo was not involved. Archbishop Apuron was, but as you shall see, he appears to be suffering from a case of selective memory. So, today, we will debunk these statements and expose them for what they are: fabrications in an attempt to cover-up the secret transfer and recordation of the title of the Yona property to the RMS Corporation.
- Contrary to the impression created by these statements that the Yona land was purchased solely for the use of the RMS, we approved in 2002 the purchase of the Yona property not only for the purpose of housing the seminary, but also because of its size, it will “…allow the Archdiocese to build other buildings for use by parishioners, without interrupting the operation of the seminary.” Thus, it was not purchased for the exclusive use of any particular group in the archdiocese, but for the benefit of all Catholics in Guam.
- Contrary to the statements by Fr. Pius (August 3, 2014, Pacific Daily News) that “… the money for the purchase of the hotel was donated to the archdiocese by an off-island benefactor who offered it with the explicit intention of erecting the seminary and the theological institute, … that the previous owner of the hotel sold it with the proviso that the building be used as an educational facility, and that actually the archdiocese did not put down a penny”, these are the facts:
- We approved the purchase in 2002 by securing a $2.0 million loan with the Bank of Guam. In weighing the risks involved, we concluded that the “…value of the property to the loan provides ample cushion in the event the Seminary is not able to repay the debt.” We further concluded that the “… property can be easily liquidated for an amount that could pay-off the loan and provide a windfall for the Archdiocese.” There was no donor involved.
- The previous owner did not have a proviso that the building be used for an educational facility. The Yona property was purchased free of any restrictions and encumbrances. This was our condition.
- The donor to whom Fr. Pius referred as donating the money for the purchase of the hotel did not exist in 2002. That donor did not surface until the following year. Thus, it was this archdiocese that purchased the property borrowing and expending $2 million, plus other closing, loan payments, and related expenses. No donor was involved because the donor had not existed at the time of purchase.
- As for the intention of the donor, in a letter to Archbishop Apuron dated February 2, 2015, responding to Archbishop Apuron’s request to sign an enclosed letter confirming that the donor did in fact donate the money with that “explicit intention”, the donor refused and disagreed, explaining as follows:
Dear Archbishop Apuron, in 2003 when the said “funds” were donated, we had absolutely no knowledge of these entities (like Redemptoris Mater Seminary, the Neo-catechumenal Way, or the Theological Institute for the formation of priests), not to speak of any specific intention whatsoever to relate this donation to them. In fact, we did not even know of these lay organizations, so naturally we could not direct anything to them by name. It was our sole intention to help the people of Guam to provide a property for a seminary for the formation of priests for the Church in Guam. At that time, in 2003, we were made aware of the burden you were carrying in regard to the purchase of this property for a seminary. It was our desire to help relieve you of this concern and enable the Archdiocese to conduct a seminary in the former hotel. This was our intent. It was not our intent that the Archdiocese place on the hotel property, purchased with our donation, a deed restriction, in perpetuity, whereby the property is now dedicated to be used only for the Redemptoris Mater Seminary and Theological Institute. As a result, we felt “very ill at ease” when we came to know about the “Deed Restriction” which gives the Redemptoris Mater Seminary control of the said Property in “perpetuity.” The phrase, “in perpetuity” implies that the seminary now belongs to the Neocatechumenal Way Christians, which is the only group permitted to use the property now or in the future… In conclusion, dear Archbishop Apuron, I cannot sign the letter you drafted for me because it would not in fact be truthful. We are keeping you, the seminarians and all the people of Guam very much in our prayers. May the Spirit of love bring peace and unity to all. Sincerely in Christ, TDR.
- The theological institute to which Fr. Pius referred did not exist until 2005, three years after the purchase in 2002. Thus, the assertion by Fr. Pius that it was the donor’s “explicit intention” that the funds be used to purchase the Yona property for the RMS and the theological institute was a physical impossibility.
Is this what they call recreating history to fit your narrative?
- Contrary to what Fr. Pius said (KUAM, 8/24/2016), Archbishop Apuron said (Declaration released to all media, 8/25/2016), Fr. Adrian said (KUAM, 1/14/2015), and Fr. Edivaldo said (Pacific Daily News, June 1, 2016), whereby they all collectively accused the former AFC of trying to sell the Yona property for various reasons such as paying off the archdiocesan debts, to cover the debt incurred by the Cathedral Basilica and Catholic Cemeteries, and selling the Yona property to some big-time casino operator, these are the facts:
- There is only one person in Guam that can sign off and sell the Yona property or any other archdiocesan property: the Archbishop of Agana. To claim otherwise is to deny reality. However, as a way to protect the patrimony of the Catholic Church from the acts of wayward and renegade archbishops, the Catholic Church, in her wisdom and experience, codified under Canon Law (canons 1290-1298) that in order for an archbishop to sell an archdiocesan property, he must first obtain the written consent of the Archdiocesan Finance Council, the College of Consulters, and the Vatican. Archbishop Apuron did not obtain our consent, let alone the College of Consulters and the Vatican, to transfer the Yona property to the RMS under a deed recorded on November 22, 2011.
- The fabricated story that we tried to sell the Yona property is as far-fetched as if we were accused of trying to sell the White House, or St. Peter’s Basilica, or Anderson Air Force Base. We were volunteers. We had no corporate authority to sign even a check, let alone selling off a piece of valuable property. The AFC is a consultative body. We typically met several times a year. Canon 492 provides in part that the AFC shall “… consists of at least three members of the Christian faithful truly expert in financial affairs and outstanding in integrity …” Sister Stephen Torres guided the many accomplishments of the Sisters of Mercy in Guam as its Treasurer for many years. Mr. Joe Rivera was the director of the Department of Bureau Budget & Management Research for Government of Guam until his retirement, and is now the Chief Financial Officer of Calvo Enterprises. Monsignor James Benavente oversaw the massive multi-million dollar renovation of the Cathedral Basilica and the restoration of the Catholic Cemeteries and founded the Archdiocesan Development Group. Mr. Richard Untalan has a degree in economics and law, is president of CU Holdings, and in his volunteer capacity, guided the massive renovation of the Cathedral Basilica, the construction of the multi-purpose gym at Bishop Baumgartner Memorial School, the reconstruction of St. Francis School, and the construction of the Boys’ Chapel at Father Duenas Memorial School. Sister Stephen was a founding member of the AFC serving 26 years, Monsignor James served 15 years, Richard Untalan served 12 years, and Joe Rivera served for 9 years.
- Fr. Pius himself admitted that this story is false. In an email to Richard Untalan, dated March 11, 2012, in response to Untalan’s demand that he, as the Chief Catechist of the NCW in Guam, put an immediate stop to the dissemination of this fabricated story among the NCW communities, and after assuring Untalan that this story is indeed untrue, he emphatically stated to Richard Untalan that “I hope these things never happen/have happened/will happen!”.
- Statements such as “Over My Dead Body” are melodramatic and sensational attempts to portray and characterize Archbishop Apuron, Fr. Pius and the NCW as martyrs and the victims of persecution, fighting off some malevolent and powerful interests lumped under the collective name of “Tim Rohr and Associates”, which will do anything to sell the Yona property for their own profit and gain. We were fired for doing our job, too well apparently. We had no power or authority to sell archdiocesan assets. We did not stand to gain from the sale of the Yona property. Only the archbishop can, although now that the NCW/RMS is the owner, it alone stands to profit from it.
- We would also like to correct one other misleading impression propagated by said false statements. Contrary to what Archbishop Apuron, Fr. Adrian, Fr. Pius, and others are attempting to portray that the Yona property and the Redemptoris Mater Seminary/Theological Institute are one and the same in order to characterize any attempt to return the Yona property to the Archdiocese as attacking and destroying the RMS/Institute, the two are not one and the same. The RMS/Institute are institutions, separate and apart from the brick/mortar/ground of the property. I know you know this to be obviously true, but the misleading impression being created by them is that one cannot exists without the other, in order to block any attempts to return the title of the property to the Archdiocese of Agana. The viability of the RMS/Institute is not tied to the property. There is nothing sacred or historic about the Yona property. The RMS/Institute can exist anywhere other than on the Yona property, as the RMS previously did at FD prior to 2002. In fact, back in 2002, we were looking at a 60-acre property owned by the archdiocese in Umatac to build a seminary before the opportunity to purchase the Yona property surfaced.
Why then is Fr. Pius and Archbishop Apuron so vehement in their opposition to return the title of the property, which will certainly advance the cause of peace, reconciliation, and unity that Catholics in Guam desire? Furthermore, if what they claim is true that the archdiocese is still the owner of the Yona property anyway, then resolve all doubt, dispute, controversy, and outcry by deeding the property back to the archdiocese. The former Rector of the RMS, Fr. Pablo Rodriguez, wanted to do just that, expressing that the RMS/Institute does not need the Yona property to exists, as it had on another piece of property. He was dismayed that the NCW had become too attached to the Yona property, or to use the terminology frequently used by the NCW, the Yona property had become the NCW’s idol.
- We can only speculate why Archbishop Apuron, Fr. Pius, Fr. Adrian, and Fr. Edivaldo have fabricated the story that we were fired because we attempted to sell the seminary property. Let us look at the facts again: In a special AFC meeting on September 7, 2011, wherein Archbishop Apuron presided and wherein Attorney Ed Terlaje, the archdiocesan legal counsel was present along with the Finance Officer, Deacon Steve Martinez, the AFC denied the request of the seminary to transfer the title of the property to the RMS. Archbishop Apuron agreed and directed us to directly transmit the decision of the archdiocese to the RMS. That was done on September 8. On November 25, the AFC received a letter (please note that it was dated November 16 but not delivered until the 25, three days after the secret recordation of a deed transferring the property to the RMS, of which we had no knowledge at that time) from the archbishop stating that because we were ignorant of canon law, the transfer was merely an assignment, not alienation, and therefore was permissible. Our learned archdiocesan legal counsel, Attorney Ed Terlaje, responded in an email dated November 27, 2011 to the AFC, including Monsignor David the Vicar General, stating: “…’alienation’ and ‘assignment’ are words of distinction without a difference. Any documents containing these words would place a huge cloud on title to real property which would result in a protracted litigation and prohibitive cost to remove such cloud. Do you really want to risk title to the property conservatively valued at 75 million dollars?”
In an attempt to resolve this ongoing dispute with some kind of compromise, a meeting was called for December 5. However, that meeting was cancelled after Monsignor David, the Vicar General, accused us of “a vulnus” to the archbishop and after receiving word from the archbishop(who was in Rome) to stop this “nonsense.” At this point, we were scratching our heads as our efforts were sincere and earnest to resolve this issue to the satisfaction of everyone. Please keep in mind that we had no idea at this point that Archbishop Apuron, Monsignor David, Fr. Pius, Fr. Adrian and others had already secretly recorded the deed of transfer.
So, after Archbishop Apuron had returned, a regular meeting was scheduled for the following month, January of 2012, but before we were able to convene, we were unceremoniously fired en masse. For three years, we were dumbfounded as to why we were fired, the reason being given at the time was that our terms had expired, which they had not. It was not until January 2015 when it was disclosed on JungleWatch that we were able to understand why.
Unbeknownst to us, Archbishop Apuron, with the help of Monsignor David, Fr. Pius, Fr. Adrian, and the NCW, secretly and without consulting and securing the consent of the AFC, let alone the College of Consulters and the Vatican, transferred the Yona property to the RMS and recorded the deed on November 22, 2011. This is why the November 16 letter was never delivered to us until after November 22 and why the Vicar General and Archbishop were so vehement in their reaction to us that we were holding a meeting to discuss the issue. They wanted to eliminate and preempt the possibility that we will discover during a meeting of the AFC that they had already secretly transferred the property, a disclosure that would have ignited a canonical firestorm. We were fired to hide the fact that the archbishop and others secretly and in violation of canon law, and perhaps civil law as well, not to mention their fiduciary responsibility to the Catholic faithful, gave away the Yona property to the RMS, a separate entity controlled by the NCW, for free.
Si Yuus Mase.
Richard J. Untalan
Sister Mary Stephen Torres, RSM
Monsignor James L.G. Benavente
Joseph E. Rivera
Deacon Stephen Wm. Martinez
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