{"id":964,"date":"2009-05-14T08:03:44","date_gmt":"2009-05-14T08:03:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/paxtibi.net\/?p=964"},"modified":"2009-05-14T08:08:06","modified_gmt":"2009-05-14T08:08:06","slug":"deranje-iz-sveg-grla-umjesto-trezvenije-i-misticnije-liturgije","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/?p=964","title":{"rendered":"Deranje iz sveg grla umjesto trezvenije i misti\u010dnije liturgije"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\"><span lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\"><a href=\"javascript:show_photo(&quot;photo\/normal\/11455.jpg&quot;)\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignleft\" src=\"http:\/\/www.ika.hr\/photo\/small\/11455.jpg\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" width=\"147\" height=\"212\" \/><\/a>Knjiga senatora Marcella Pere (u izdanju Verbuma), uglednog politi\u010dara i filozofa, agnostika i liberala, u kojoj se zala\u017ee za davanje punog zna\u010daja kr\u0161\u0107anstvu u dru\u0161tvenom \u017eivotu jer to vidi kao jedini izlaz za budu\u0107nost Europe. <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">Kao \u0161to Montesquieu opisuje Europu svoga vremena koriste\u0107i se slikom perzijanske karavane koja putuje uzdu\u017e i poprijeko i pi\u0161e <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">Perzijska pisma<\/em>, tako i Pera opisuje Europu svoga vremena iz perspektive jednog amerikanca Johnnya koji svojoj djevojci Danielle pi\u0161e <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">Ameri\u010dka pisma<\/em>. Johnny o Crkvi pi\u0161e ovo:<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">&#8220;Samo su crkve druk\u010dije od na\u0161ih: mnogo su starije i ljep\u0161e, ali op\u0107enito vjerski su obredi pusti ili im pak prisustvuju samo starije \u017eene, a onda ne mogu ti do\u010darati, <strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\">krici, pjevanje iz svega grla, zapravo deranje kao da smo na pjeva\u010dkome festivalu ili na nekom na\u0161em rodeu prije natjecanja.<\/strong> Na sre\u0107u, tvrde mi da je sada papa Benedikt XVI. ponovno uveo stari <strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\">obred na latinskome<\/strong> i mo\u017eda \u0107e sve <strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\">postati trezvenije i misti\u010dnije<\/strong>. <em>Bye for now<\/em>, odlazim u Frankfurt.&#8221; (str. 68.)<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">&#8220;<em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">Crkva<\/em>. Dany, ve\u0107 sam u Vje\u010dnome gradu i danas ti pi\u0161em o Crkvi. U\u010dinit \u0107u to sa\u017eeto jer je tema neizmjerna. Ti zna\u0161 moje mi\u0161ljenje: vrlo sam privr\u017een na\u0161emu ameri\u010dkom modelu <strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\">&#8216;zidu razdvajanja&#8217;<\/strong>, koji su na\u010di oci podigli <strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\">da \u010duva ne dr\u017eavu<\/strong>, kako ovdje misle, <strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\">nego vjersku slobodu<\/strong>. U Europi nije tako: budu\u0107i da se Crkva vi\u0161e puta na\u0161la protiv nacionalnih dr\u017eava koje su nastajale i budu\u0107i da je potom bila prisiljena tra\u017eiti <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">modus vivendi<\/em>, ovdje su na snazi <strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\">konkordati<\/strong>. Nema dvojbe da Crkva iz toga izvla\u010di koristi, ali mi se \u010dini da je to <strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\">na u\u0161trb duhovnoga ugleda njezina u\u010diteljstva<\/strong>. Ako dopusti\u0161 da te dr\u017eava financira i od nje dobiva\u0161 korist i povlastice, onda <strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\">mora\u0161 platiti cijenu<\/strong>, mora\u0161 se <strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\">obuzdavati i katkada \u010dak zatvoriti usta<\/strong>. Veliki papa Ivan Pavao II. svojom glasovitom pobudnicom iz 2003. <em>Crkva u Europi<\/em> <strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\">grmio je protiv odbijanja bilo kakva spomena kr\u0161\u0107anstva me\u0111u korijenima Europe<\/strong>, ali onda se sve rije\u0161ilo, \u010dini mi se bez previ\u0161e prigovora od strane same Crkve, dogovorenom <strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\">za\u0161titom nacionalnih konkordata<\/strong>: Europa se nije htjela <strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\">priznati kr\u0161\u0107anskom<\/strong>, ali je <strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\">kr\u0161\u0107anskim ustanovama priznala za\u0161ti\u0107eni polo\u017eaj.<\/strong> Druk\u010diji vid mi je slabo uvjerljiv&#8230;<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">Da ti skratim, imam dojam da, osobito <strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\">nakon Drugoga vatikanskoga sabora<\/strong>, Crkva malo <strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\">previ\u0161e koketira s moderno\u0161\u0107u<\/strong>. To je pogrje\u0161ka jer je vodi na podru\u010dje politike, dijeli je ba\u0161 kao \u0161to se doga\u0111a u politici na <strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\">&#8216;konzervativce&#8217; i &#8216;naprednjake&#8217;<\/strong> i naposljetku izvrgava opasnosti da joj <strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\">potkopa ugled ba\u0161 kao i politici<\/strong>. Je li slu\u010dajno \u0161to se mno\u0161tvo naroda zbija oko Benedikta XVI., kao prije oko Ivana Pavla II., dok se crkve i dalje prazne?&#8221; (str. 70-71.)<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span lang=\"HR\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span lang=\"HR\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Knjiga senatora Marcella Pere (u izdanju Verbuma), uglednog politi\u010dara i filozofa, agnostika i liberala, u kojoj se zala\u017ee za davanje<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[1],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/964"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=964"}],"version-history":[{"count":7,"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/964\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":966,"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/964\/revisions\/966"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=964"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=964"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=964"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}