{"id":2847,"date":"2016-10-16T16:51:21","date_gmt":"2016-10-16T16:51:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/?p=2847"},"modified":"2016-10-16T16:55:17","modified_gmt":"2016-10-16T16:55:17","slug":"kiko-i-njegove-neokatekumenske-pjesme-plagijat","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/?p=2847","title":{"rendered":"Kiko i njegove neokatekumenske pjesme: plagijat?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"post-body-9135038307366801955\" class=\"post-body entry-content\">\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n<p><em>pi\u0161e LaPaz, dopisnik za Jungle Watch iz \u0160panjolske<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Dobro je poznato kako je Kiko Arg\u00fcello moderni renesansni \u010dovjek. Bavi se gotovo svim ljudskim aktivnostima: slikanjem, arhitekturom, dizajnom, glazbom, pisanjem&#8230; I sve \u0161to dotakne pretvara u zlato.<\/p>\n<div class=\"separator\"><a href=\"https:\/\/forocatolico.files.wordpress.com\/2012\/01\/kiko-e1327371008966.jpg?w=600&amp;h=400\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/forocatolico.files.wordpress.com\/2012\/01\/kiko-e1327371008966.jpg?w=600&amp;h=400\" alt=\"\" width=\"320\" height=\"213\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\">Kika Arg\u00fcella predstavljaju kao \u017eivog sveca kojem iskazuju \u010da\u0161\u0107enje \u010dlanovi njegove zajednice. Neokatekumeni su pravi fanatici prema njemu. Svi oni misle da Kiku direktno asistira Duh Sveti te da je on novi prorok nove ere Katoli\u010dke Crkve. Jednom sam \u010dula da neki ljudi tra\u017ee bilo kakav komad predmeta koje Kiko baci na nekom sastanku kako bi te predmete \u010duvali kao relikvije. U\u017easno.<\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\">U ovom postu usredoto\u010dujemo se samo na njegove pjesme, skupljene u &#8220;Resucit\u00f3 Chants&#8221; za neokatekumenske psalmiste. Na Putu nije mogu\u0107e uvesti neku pjesmu koju Kiko ne bi glazbeno aran\u017eirao. On je jedini i vrhovni kompozitor. Svakoj pjesmi je pridru\u017eena kateheza koji je tako\u0111er sastavio Kiko. To je na\u010din na koji utemeljitelj odlu\u010duje \u0161to \u0107e se, kada, za\u0161to i kako pjevati.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com\/236x\/5d\/e6\/fd\/5de6fdabdff8fb1d7ea4f900d4840413.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com\/236x\/5d\/e6\/fd\/5de6fdabdff8fb1d7ea4f900d4840413.jpg\" alt=\"\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\">Postoje i neke pjesme koje neokatekumeni obi\u010dno pjevaju, a koje su postale popularne i izvan Puta. Neke od njih mogu se \u010duti i u nekim katoli\u010dkim crkvenim slavljima kao da su dio tradicionalne liturgijske pjesme. Na primjer: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=ODfTraRqHos\" target=\"_blank\">Resucit\u00f3<\/a> (Uskrsnuo je) ili\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=qHeGhqg7ZD8\" target=\"_blank\">Hacia ti, morada santa<\/a>\u00a0su dvije jako popularne.<\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\">Evo i prilago\u0111enog sa\u017eetka koji je napisao Veritas na stranici\u00a0Cruxsancta:<\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#8220;Prije jedne godine razgovarao sam s prijateljem preko dru\u0161tvenih mre\u017ea. Razgovarali smo o Neokatekumenskom putu (oba biv\u0161i \u010dlanovi Puta, on je bio vi\u0161e od 20 godina u zajednici, a ja sam ro\u0111en u neokatekumenskoj obitelji i \u0161etao sam Putem u zajednici preko 10 godina).<\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\">Razgovor se vodio o glazbi op\u0107enito te posebno o Kikovim pjesmama, a onda mi je prijatelj rekao da su mnoge Kikove pjesme, od &#8220;Uskrsnuo je&#8221;, uzete iz tipi\u010dno \u017eidovskih pjesma i drugih koje je je napisao jedan rabin.<\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\">Lista koju mi je dao moj prijatelj sadr\u017ei\u00a020 takvih pjesama. Vidjet \u0107emo kako Kiko voli sve \u0161to je povezano sa \u017eidovskim i onda to\u00a0kopira. Kiko je preuzeo ideju rabina Shlomo Carlebach, koji okuplja svoje pripadnike na duge kateheze prije pjevanja svojih pjesama.<\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\">Evo nekih od pjesama, najprije poveznica na Kikovu pjesmu, a druga\u00a0poveznica na originalnu \u017eidovsku pjesmu.&#8221;<\/div>\n<p><b><br \/>\n<\/b><b>A) BARCHENU AVINU &#8211; THE FATHER IS IN HEAVEN<\/b><br \/>\n1. Kiko: El Padre est\u00e1 en el cielo<\/p>\n<div class=\"separator\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"YOUTUBE-iframe-video\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/r8O4wGOzGjk?feature=player_embedded\" width=\"320\" height=\"266\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-thumbnail-src=\"https:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/r8O4wGOzGjk\/0.jpg\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<p>2.\u00a0Shlomo Carlebach &#8211;\u00a07\/13 \u05e9\u05dc\u05de\u05d4 \u05e7\u05e8\u05dc\u05d9\u05d1\u05da &#8211; \u05d1\u05e8\u05db\u05e0\u05d5 \u05d0\u05d1\u05d9\u05e0\u05d5\u00a0Barchenu Avinu<\/p>\n<div class=\"separator\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"YOUTUBE-iframe-video\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/b_cFSjS1J8Q?feature=player_embedded\" width=\"320\" height=\"266\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-thumbnail-src=\"https:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/b_cFSjS1J8Q\/0.jpg\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<p><b>B) ERETZ Zavat Halav &#8211; GRACIAS A YAHVEH<\/b><\/p>\n<p>1. Kiko:<\/p>\n<div class=\"separator\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"YOUTUBE-iframe-video\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/DQjxMCWsEnA?feature=player_embedded\" width=\"320\" height=\"266\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-thumbnail-src=\"https:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/DQjxMCWsEnA\/0.jpg\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\">2.\u00a0ERETZ ZAVAT JALAV Tierra Que Mana Leche HD Hebreo &#8211; Espa\u00f1ol<\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"YOUTUBE-iframe-video\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/ABy2_ybPE00?feature=player_embedded\" width=\"320\" height=\"266\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-thumbnail-src=\"https:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/ABy2_ybPE00\/0.jpg\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\">C)\u00a0<b>EREV SHEL SHOSHANIM \u2013 CANTA A YAVEH JERUSAL\u00c9N (salmo 147)<\/b><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><b>\u00a0<\/b><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\">1. Kiko:<\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><\/div>\n<div><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"YOUTUBE-iframe-video\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/oSuWzkswz1s?feature=player_embedded\" width=\"320\" height=\"266\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-thumbnail-src=\"https:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/oSuWzkswz1s\/0.jpg\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><\/div>\n<p>2.\u00a0Mike Brant &#8211; Nana Mouskouri &#8220;Erev shel Shoshanim&#8221; Version<\/p>\n<div class=\"separator\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"YOUTUBE-iframe-video\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/3MjsKojeLqs?feature=player_embedded\" width=\"320\" height=\"266\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-thumbnail-src=\"https:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/3MjsKojeLqs\/0.jpg\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><b>D)\u00a0EVENU SHALOM<\/b><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><b>\u00a0<\/b><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\">1. Kiko:<\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"YOUTUBE-iframe-video\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/yFOitqw728E?feature=player_embedded\" width=\"320\" height=\"266\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-thumbnail-src=\"https:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/yFOitqw728E\/0.jpg\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\">2.\u00a0Hevenu Shalom Alechem<\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"YOUTUBE-iframe-video\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/JB4RMIWroMY?feature=player_embedded\" width=\"320\" height=\"266\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-thumbnail-src=\"https:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/JB4RMIWroMY\/0.jpg\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><b>E)\u00a0HINEI MA TOV \u2013 COMO ES MARAVILLOSO<\/b><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><b>\u00a0<\/b><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\">1. Kiko:\u00a0Como es maravilloso &#8211; Salmo 133 (132)<\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><\/div>\n<div><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"YOUTUBE-iframe-video\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/BkMkPl4r0Ok?feature=player_embedded\" width=\"320\" height=\"266\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-thumbnail-src=\"https:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/BkMkPl4r0Ok\/0.jpg\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\">2.\u00a0Canto Ebraico &#8220;Hinei ma tov&#8221; Salmo 133<\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><\/div>\n<div><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"YOUTUBE-iframe-video\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/lZs9ld3klPo?feature=player_embedded\" width=\"320\" height=\"266\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-thumbnail-src=\"https:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/lZs9ld3klPo\/0.jpg\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><b>\u00a0<\/b><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><b>F) IRME KERO MADRE \u2013 QUIERO ANDAR MADRE A JERUSAL\u00c9N<\/b><\/div>\n<p>1. Kiko:<\/p>\n<div class=\"separator\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"YOUTUBE-iframe-video\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/fTe437fAev8?feature=player_embedded\" width=\"320\" height=\"266\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-thumbnail-src=\"https:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/fTe437fAev8\/0.jpg\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\">2.\u00a0Ofri Eliaz : Ir me kero madre \/ Ladino \u05dc\u05d0\u05d3\u05d9\u05e0\u05d5<\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"YOUTUBE-iframe-video\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/yWnW4mnEXUk?feature=player_embedded\" width=\"320\" height=\"266\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-thumbnail-src=\"https:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/yWnW4mnEXUk\/0.jpg\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><b>\u00a0<\/b><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><b>\u00a0<\/b><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><b>\u00a0<\/b><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><b>G)\u00a0LEMAN ACHAI\u00a0\u00a0VEREAI \u2013 POR EL AMOR DE MIS AMIGOS\u00a0<\/b><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><b>\u00a0<\/b><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\">1. Kiko<b>:\u00a0<\/b><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><b><br \/>\n<\/b><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"YOUTUBE-iframe-video\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/mT9gxJamxNc?feature=player_embedded\" width=\"320\" height=\"266\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-thumbnail-src=\"https:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/mT9gxJamxNc\/0.jpg\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\">2.\u00a0Shlomo Carlebach &#8211; Leman Achai Vereai \u05dc\u05de\u05e2\u05df \u05d0\u05d7\u05d9<\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><\/div>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"YOUTUBE-iframe-video\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/AV5QIDISvdA?feature=player_embedded\" width=\"320\" height=\"266\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-thumbnail-src=\"https:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/AV5QIDISvdA\/0.jpg\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<div class=\"separator\"><b>\u00a0<\/b><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><b>H)\u00a0MA NISHTANA \u2013 CANTO DE LOS NI\u00d1OS<\/b><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><b>\u00a0<\/b><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\">1. Kiko:\u00a0Canto de los ni\u00f1os &#8220;\u00bfPor qu\u00e9 esta noche es diferente?&#8221; (in Italian)<\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"YOUTUBE-iframe-video\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/DjOpyoMY7J8?feature=player_embedded\" width=\"320\" height=\"266\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-thumbnail-src=\"https:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/DjOpyoMY7J8\/0.jpg\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\">bilje\u0161ka: Na\u0161la sam ovu pjesmu na engleskom:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=7In3Skc4-6k&amp;list=PLF2dwwghATt-Ra9VaTObfhCLPKHgxehpA&amp;index=18\" target=\"_blank\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=7In3Skc4-6k&amp;list=PLF2dwwghATt-Ra9VaTObfhCLPKHgxehpA&amp;index=18<\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\">2.\u00a0Ma Nishtana &#8211; Passover Songs<\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"YOUTUBE-iframe-video\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/TRRyVaFg5XQ?feature=player_embedded\" width=\"320\" height=\"266\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-thumbnail-src=\"https:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/TRRyVaFg5XQ\/0.jpg\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<p><b><br \/>\n<\/b><b>I)\u00a0SIMAN TOV \u2013 SANTO<\/b><br \/>\n<b><br \/>\n<\/b>1. Kiko: Santo Hebreo<\/p>\n<div class=\"separator\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"YOUTUBE-iframe-video\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/9wPVxbO0gxw?feature=player_embedded\" width=\"320\" height=\"266\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-thumbnail-src=\"https:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/9wPVxbO0gxw\/0.jpg\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\">2.\u00a0Siman Tov Mazel Tov &#8211; matrimonio ebraico &#8211; jewish wedding<\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><\/div>\n<div><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"YOUTUBE-iframe-video\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/fM8kMpfNmXc?feature=player_embedded\" width=\"320\" height=\"266\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-thumbnail-src=\"https:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/fM8kMpfNmXc\/0.jpg\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><b>J)\u00a0VHAER ENEINU &#8211; SANTO<\/b><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>1. Kiko: Santo Palestina<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"YOUTUBE-iframe-video\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/XSPLHxbQT9A?feature=player_embedded\" width=\"320\" height=\"266\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-thumbnail-src=\"https:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/XSPLHxbQT9A\/0.jpg\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\">2.\u00a0Veha&#8217;er Eineinu &#8211; Rabbi Shlomo Carlebach &#8211;\u00a0\u05d5\u05d4\u05d0\u05e8 \u05e2\u05d9\u05e0\u05d9\u05e0\u05d5 &#8211; \u05e8\u05d1\u05d9 \u05e9\u05dc\u05de\u05d4 \u05e7\u05e8\u05dc\u05d9\u05d1\u05da<\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"YOUTUBE-iframe-video\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/2U4pyUGk6Hw?feature=player_embedded\" width=\"320\" height=\"266\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-thumbnail-src=\"https:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/2U4pyUGk6Hw\/0.jpg\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<p>Author: Veritas in:\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/cruxsancta.blogspot.com.es\/2016\/10\/la-musica-del-cnc-es-de-kiko.html\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/cruxsancta.blogspot.com.es\/2016\/10\/la-musica-del-cnc-es-de-kiko.html<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.junglewatch.info\/2016\/10\/kiko-arguello-and-his-neocatechumenal.html\">Poveznica<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>pi\u0161e LaPaz, dopisnik za Jungle Watch iz \u0160panjolske Dobro je poznato kako je Kiko Arg\u00fcello moderni renesansni \u010dovjek. 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