{"id":2834,"date":"2016-10-05T16:26:10","date_gmt":"2016-10-05T16:26:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/?p=2834"},"modified":"2016-10-05T16:33:59","modified_gmt":"2016-10-05T16:33:59","slug":"tajna-neokatekumenskog-novca","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/?p=2834","title":{"rendered":"Tajna neokatekumenskog novca"},"content":{"rendered":"<h3 class=\"post-title entry-title\"><\/h3>\n<div class=\"post-header\"><\/div>\n<div id=\"post-body-5237451630775246876\" class=\"post-body entry-content\">\n<div id=\"c7337653173274919887\" class=\"comment-block\">\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\">pi\u0161e LaPaz, dopisnik Jungle Watch iz \u0160panjolske.<\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-header\"><\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u010citaju\u0107i danas post &#8220;Diane&#8221;, odgovorila je na neka interesantna pitanja o neokatekumenskom novcu. Uvijek se povu\u010de kad njezin inteligentni sugovornik \u017eeli i\u0107i dalje od njezinih jednostavnih obja\u0161njenja. Trebamo razlikovati tro\u0161kove neo-zajednice od tro\u0161kova Puta kao pokreta ili globalne karizme.<\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/9AtMI7F3gq0\/hqdefault.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/9AtMI7F3gq0\/hqdefault.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"320\" height=\"240\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n<p>Na primjer, svaka zajednica ima iste tro\u0161kove za svaki mjesec: cvije\u0107e za slavlja (Euharistija, Slu\u017eba rije\u010di, itd.), osoba ili osobe koje se brinu za djecu dok su roditelji u zajednici, zatim za tro\u0161kove smje\u0161taja na konvivenciji.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">Ovisno o stadiju na kojem se zajednica nalazi, tu su jo\u0161 neki drugi tro\u0161kovi koje treba dodate prethodnima: novac za kupnju hrane za agape (jednom mjese\u010dno), novac za kupnju Kikovih liturgijskih predmeta, novac za tim katehista&#8230; \u0160to vi\u0161e vremena provodite na Putu to vam je skuplja svaka minuta.<\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><a href=\"https:\/\/apologista.files.wordpress.com\/2010\/10\/dineroq.jpg?w=620\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/apologista.files.wordpress.com\/2010\/10\/dineroq.jpg?w=620\" alt=\"\" width=\"320\" height=\"209\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">Za sve spomenute tro\u0161kove, zajednica pribavlja prihode preko vre\u0107a za sme\u0107e u koje svaki \u010dlan baca novac, teoretski ovisno osobnim mogu\u0107nostima. Mo\u017eda lije\u010dnik mo\u017ee ubaciti vi\u0161e, nezaposleni \u010dlan ne mo\u017ee&#8230; ovisi.<\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">To je uobi\u010dajeni na\u010din za sve zajednice diljem svijeta. Sve dok zajednica ne do\u0111e do drugog skrutinija. Nakon njega, svaki mjesec do kraja svojih \u017eivota, sva bra\u0107a i sestre moraju davati DESETINU. Svatko mora dati 10% od svih mjese\u010dnih prihoda.<\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u0160to se doga\u0111a sa sporadi\u010dnim prihodima, ako recimo dobijete na lotu ili vam teta ostavi svoju ostav\u0161tinu? Dodat \u0107ete desetinu od svega toga plus va\u0161a mjese\u010dna desetina.<\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">Dakle, je li mogu\u0107e govoriti o &#8220;mjese\u010dnim prihodima&#8221; zajednice na Putu? Da, nakon drugog skrutinija.<\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><a href=\"https:\/\/ministerioinfantilusa.files.wordpress.com\/2014\/10\/envelope_open_with_money_1600_clr_14362.png\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/ministerioinfantilusa.files.wordpress.com\/2014\/10\/envelope_open_with_money_1600_clr_14362.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"320\" height=\"280\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\"><\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">Tko upravlja s desetinom jedne zajednice? Odgovorni. On mora podijeliti desetinu na tri dijela. Ovdje postoje razli\u010dite teorije. Statut uop\u0107e ne govori o desetini, tako da svaka zajednica mora o tome nau\u010diti preko svojih katehista.<\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">Re\u0107i \u0107u vam neka razli\u010dita obja\u0161njenja:<\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#8211; Jedan dio je za \u017eupu, jedan za zajednicu, a jedan za neokatekumenski centar.<\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#8211; Jedan je za \u017eupu, jedan za zajednicu, a jedan za biskupiju.<\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#8211; Jedan je za \u017eupu, jedan za zajednicu, a jedan za siromahe (ovo tuma\u010denje je jedno od najboljih, ali mo\u017eda najmanje realno \u0161to ja znam).<\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><a href=\"http:\/\/s04.s3c.es\/imag\/_v0\/700x420\/6\/0\/b\/euros-colchon-debajo-700.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/s04.s3c.es\/imag\/_v0\/700x420\/6\/0\/b\/euros-colchon-debajo-700.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"320\" height=\"192\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">Nitko ne mo\u017ee pitati odgovornoga u zajednici o na\u010dinu na koji on tro\u0161i desetinu. Nitko zna\u010di &#8220;brat ili sestra&#8221; koji pripada toj zajednici. Zamislite tek \u0161to to zna\u010di za one koji ne pripadaju zajednici. To zna\u010di, odgovorni nije du\u017ean dati obja\u0161njenje svojim \u010dlanovima zajednice, a jo\u0161 manje onima izvan te zajednice. Odgovorni daje obja\u0161njenja samo svome katehistu.<\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><a href=\"https:\/\/noticiasdeinternet.blogia.com\/upload\/externo-da5b6a175b14d59e2c607fde56e5f8e6.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/noticiasdeinternet.blogia.com\/upload\/externo-da5b6a175b14d59e2c607fde56e5f8e6.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"320\" height=\"244\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\"><\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">U teoriji, desetina se daje slobodno. No, to nije istina. Od odre\u0111ene etape Puta, svaki mjesec, od svakog \u010dlana se tra\u017ei desetina tijekom slavlja sa timom bra\u0107e i sestara (Daje\u0161 li desetinu? Da\/Ne; ako ne, za\u0161to?). K tome vi\u0161e, katehist \u0107e svakom ponaosob pitati isto pitanje javno, pred cijelom zajednicom.<\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">U praksi, svaki odgovorni kona\u010dno \u010dini odre\u0111ene prilagodbe uputa koje je dobio. Na primjer, ako zajednica ima nekog bogoslova, onda jedna tre\u0107ina prihoda desetine mo\u017ee biti data za te potrebe.<\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\"><a href=\"http:\/\/micasayjardin.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/3.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/micasayjardin.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/3.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"320\" height=\"240\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">Desetina sa sakuplja u gotovini. Nije mogu\u0107e pla\u0107ati ju na druga\u010diji na\u010din. Ne pitaj za ra\u010dun. Za sav taj novac nema nikakvog traga. Na ruku (u vre\u0107i ili kuvertama).<\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">To zna\u010di da je desetina sigurni mjese\u010dni prihod za zajednicu, \u017eupu, biskupiju i svaki neokatekumenski centar.<\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u017dupnik prima tre\u0107inu desetine u gotovini od svake neokatekumenske zajednice koja je u\u010dinila drugi skrutini.<\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">Dat \u0107u vam jedan primjer idealne \u017eupe u \u0160panjolskoj koja ima 5 zajednica koje daju desetinu.<\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/Z-XyBm4ooRI\/hqdefault.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/Z-XyBm4ooRI\/hqdefault.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"320\" height=\"240\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\">DESETINA ZA \u017dUPNIKA<\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">Svaka zajednica ima 30 \u010dlanova.<\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">Svaki \u010dlan pla\u0107a 100 eura mjese\u010dno. To zna\u010di\u00a03.000 eura po zajednici.<\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">1\/3 od\u00a03.000 eura je\u00a01.000 eura; 1.000 eura od\u00a05 zajednica je 5000 eura mjese\u010dno za \u017eupnika. Bez poreza.<\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">5.000 eura\/mjese\u010dno, 12 mjeseci je\u00a060.000 eura bez poreza na godinu za \u017eupnika.<\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><a href=\"http:\/\/static.wixstatic.com\/media\/1f19cd_7e8fc0f2f2f644f9aef4b0f0c18ec09c~mv2.jpg_srz_410_230_85_22_0.50_1.20_0.00_jpg_srz\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/static.wixstatic.com\/media\/1f19cd_7e8fc0f2f2f644f9aef4b0f0c18ec09c~mv2.jpg_srz_410_230_85_22_0.50_1.20_0.00_jpg_srz\" alt=\"\" width=\"320\" height=\"179\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\"><\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">DESETINA ZA BISKUPIJU<\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">Pretpostavimo da je 30 \u017eupa u biskupiji s idealnim (smije\u0161nim) profilom gore navedenim.<\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-header\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">Ako biskupija prima 1\/3 desetine po \u017eupi, to zna\u010di, mjese\u010dno:<\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-header\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">5.000 eura\u00a0x 30 \u017eupa\u00a0= 150.000 eura mjese\u010dno bez poreza.<\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">150.000 eura mjese\u010dno\u00a0x 12 mjeseci\u00a0= 1.800.000 eura na godinu bez poreza.<\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">Idemo sa na Neokatekumenski nivo kroz sve njihove fondacije. To je nemogu\u0107e znati. Ako samo pretpostavimo da je 1.500.000 \u010dlanova u svijetu&#8230; Odustajem, to su preveliki brojevi.<\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><a href=\"https:\/\/thumbs.dreamstime.com\/t\/concepto-el-lavar-planchar-de-dinero-con-los-dlares-54660889.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/thumbs.dreamstime.com\/t\/concepto-el-lavar-planchar-de-dinero-con-los-dlares-54660889.jpg\" alt=\"\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\"><\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">DOBRODO\u0160LI U ZEMLJU \u010cUDESA! Neokatekumenski put zan\u010di novac, mnogo novca, u gotovini bez poreza.<\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">Da, ovaj put govorimo o miliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiijunima u gotovini bez poreza.<\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><a href=\"http:\/\/comunicacionsellamaeljuego.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/05\/3m_security_glass.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/comunicacionsellamaeljuego.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/05\/3m_security_glass.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"214\" height=\"320\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">Samo mjese\u010dni prihodi od neo-\u010dlanova, bez da uzmemo u obzir prihode od donacija kao \u0161to su donacije od naslje\u0111a\u00a0neokatekumenskih \u010dlanova (novac i druga imovina). Zapravo, neki biv\u0161i \u010dlanovi svjedo\u010de da neki katehisti spominju da bi svaki \u010dlan mogao\/trebao ostaviti najmanje jedan dio svoga nasljedstva Putu.<\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">Prije nekoliko dana pro\u010ditala sam jedan komentar na Jungle o Ahilovoj peti Puta i ka\u017eem da je to sigurno novac. Mislim da \u0107e Put propasti ako neko zatra\u017ei ra\u010dun za to. Ne znam kako, kada i tko.<\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-header\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">Definitivno, ako netko zavrne slavinu, Put \u0107e biti gotov za jedan mjesec.<\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><a href=\"http:\/\/previews.123rf.com\/images\/joebelanger\/joebelanger0911\/joebelanger091100058\/5885423-Un-sandwich-de-dinero-fresco-gigante-con-varios-tipos-de-demoninations-de-pan-y-efectivo-para-uso-en-Foto-de-archivo.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/previews.123rf.com\/images\/joebelanger\/joebelanger0911\/joebelanger091100058\/5885423-Un-sandwich-de-dinero-fresco-gigante-con-varios-tipos-de-demoninations-de-pan-y-efectivo-para-uso-en-Foto-de-archivo.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"214\" height=\"320\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\">P.S.: Hvala vam, Mr. Terlaje za va\u0161a inteligentna pitanja.<\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><a href=\"http:\/\/media.telemundoarizona.com\/images\/652*367\/dinero-dolares-billetes-shutterstock_149178872.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/media.telemundoarizona.com\/images\/652*367\/dinero-dolares-billetes-shutterstock_149178872.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"320\" height=\"180\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\"><\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56M\" class=\"comment-header\"><cite class=\"user\">&#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/10491655114379489176\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mr. Terlaje<\/a><\/cite><span class=\"datetime secondary-text\"><a href=\"http:\/\/neocatechemunal.blogspot.com\/2016\/10\/the-invalid-irregularities.html?showComment=1475547182894#c7337653173274919887\" rel=\"nofollow\">October 4, 2016 at 12:13 PM<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56MC\" class=\"comment-content\">And where does the NCW get money? From church donations?<\/div>\n<p><span id=\"bc_0_56MN\" class=\"comment-actions secondary-text\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/null\" target=\"_self\">Reply<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_56BR\" class=\"comment-replies\">\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div id=\"bc_0_46T\" class=\"comment-thread inline-thread\">\n<p><span id=\"bc_0_56b+seedBSWOD\"><span id=\"bc_0_46TT\" class=\"thread-toggle thread-expanded\"><span id=\"bc_0_46TN\" class=\"thread-count\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/null\" target=\"_self\">Replies<\/a><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"bc_0_46TD\" class=\"thread-dropContainer thread-expanded\"><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ol id=\"bc_0_46TC\" class=\"thread-chrome thread-expanded\">\n<li id=\"bc_0_46B\" class=\"comment\">\n<div class=\"avatar-image-container\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/-ajwbcXvHe2k\/UwR8oEdupMI\/AAAAAAAAA7Y\/hJc7X2H9BYo\/s35\/*\" alt=\"\" \/><\/div>\n<div id=\"c4786167121800059367\" class=\"comment-block\">\n<div id=\"bc_0_46M\" class=\"comment-header\"><cite class=\"user blog-author\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/13613247477141929635\" rel=\"nofollow\">Diana<\/a><\/cite><span class=\"datetime secondary-text\"><a href=\"http:\/\/neocatechemunal.blogspot.com\/2016\/10\/the-invalid-irregularities.html?showComment=1475561801563#c4786167121800059367\" rel=\"nofollow\">October 4, 2016 at 4:16 PM<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_46MC\" class=\"comment-content\">\n<p>Dear Mr. Terlaje,<\/p>\n<p>They get it from <b>their income<\/b>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_46BR\" class=\"comment-replies\"><\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_46B_box\" class=\"comment-replybox-single\"><\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li id=\"bc_0_47B\" class=\"comment\">\n<div class=\"avatar-image-container\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif\" alt=\"\" \/><\/div>\n<div id=\"c3343037265392232022\" class=\"comment-block\">\n<div id=\"bc_0_47M\" class=\"comment-header\"><cite class=\"user\">Anonymous<\/cite><span class=\"datetime secondary-text\"><a href=\"http:\/\/neocatechemunal.blogspot.com\/2016\/10\/the-invalid-irregularities.html?showComment=1475588655871#c3343037265392232022\" rel=\"nofollow\">October 4, 2016 at 11:44 PM<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_47MC\" class=\"comment-content\">The NCW is not entitled to income, according to its statutes<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_47BR\" class=\"comment-replies\"><\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_47B_box\" class=\"comment-replybox-single\"><\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li id=\"bc_0_48B\" class=\"comment\">\n<div class=\"avatar-image-container\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/-ajwbcXvHe2k\/UwR8oEdupMI\/AAAAAAAAA7Y\/hJc7X2H9BYo\/s35\/*\" alt=\"\" \/><\/div>\n<div id=\"c3415875808533356503\" class=\"comment-block\">\n<div id=\"bc_0_48M\" class=\"comment-header\"><cite class=\"user blog-author\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/13613247477141929635\" rel=\"nofollow\">Diana<\/a><\/cite><span class=\"datetime secondary-text\"><a href=\"http:\/\/neocatechemunal.blogspot.com\/2016\/10\/the-invalid-irregularities.html?showComment=1475618177239#c3415875808533356503\" rel=\"nofollow\">October 5, 2016 at 7:56 AM<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_48MC\" class=\"comment-content\">\n<p>Dear Anonymous at 11:44 pm,<\/p>\n<p><b>The NCW does not have a bank account<\/b>, but it&#8217;s individual members have their own income because the members work as doctors, lawyers, etc.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_48BR\" class=\"comment-replies\"><\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_48B_box\" class=\"comment-replybox-single\"><\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li id=\"bc_0_49B\" class=\"comment\">\n<div class=\"avatar-image-container\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/zFdxGE77vvD2w5xHy6jkVuElKv-U9_9qLkRYK8OnbDeJPtjSZ82UPq5w6hJ-SA=s35-w35\" alt=\"\" \/><\/div>\n<div id=\"c8262162474752388202\" class=\"comment-block\">\n<div id=\"bc_0_49M\" class=\"comment-header\"><cite class=\"user\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/10491655114379489176\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mr. Terlaje<\/a><\/cite><span class=\"datetime secondary-text\"><a href=\"http:\/\/neocatechemunal.blogspot.com\/2016\/10\/the-invalid-irregularities.html?showComment=1475624435508#c8262162474752388202\" rel=\"nofollow\">October 5, 2016 at 9:40 AM<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_49MC\" class=\"comment-content\">Like Doctor Ric Eusebio and Lawyer Jackie Terlaje, right? So it&#8217;s a portion of their income that they give and that&#8217;s where the NCW gets their income? I have a job too and that&#8217;s where I get the finances to give to my parish. Isnt it the same thing. It&#8217;s called church donations.<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_49BR\" class=\"comment-replies\"><\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_49B_box\" class=\"comment-replybox-single\"><\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li id=\"bc_0_50B\" class=\"comment\">\n<div class=\"avatar-image-container\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/-ajwbcXvHe2k\/UwR8oEdupMI\/AAAAAAAAA7Y\/hJc7X2H9BYo\/s35\/*\" alt=\"\" \/><\/div>\n<div id=\"c8020924490374224050\" class=\"comment-block\">\n<div id=\"bc_0_50M\" class=\"comment-header\"><cite class=\"user blog-author\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/13613247477141929635\" rel=\"nofollow\">Diana<\/a><\/cite><span class=\"datetime secondary-text\"><a href=\"http:\/\/neocatechemunal.blogspot.com\/2016\/10\/the-invalid-irregularities.html?showComment=1475625726183#c8020924490374224050\" rel=\"nofollow\">October 5, 2016 at 10:02 AM<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_50MC\" class=\"comment-content\">\n<p>Dear Mr. Terlaje,<\/p>\n<p>When we give our money to the Church, then it is a church donation. When we purchase the $200 ticket for the birthday party, then it is for the birthday party. When I purchase $50 of groceries from Payless Supermarket, then it goes to the store. When I purchase a movie ticket, then the money goes to the theater. Can you distinguish the difference?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_50BR\" class=\"comment-replies\"><\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_50B_box\" class=\"comment-replybox-single\"><\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li id=\"bc_0_51B\" class=\"comment\">\n<div class=\"avatar-image-container\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/zFdxGE77vvD2w5xHy6jkVuElKv-U9_9qLkRYK8OnbDeJPtjSZ82UPq5w6hJ-SA=s35-w35\" alt=\"\" \/><\/div>\n<div id=\"c2408796489165457884\" class=\"comment-block\">\n<div id=\"bc_0_51M\" class=\"comment-header\"><cite class=\"user\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/10491655114379489176\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mr. Terlaje<\/a><\/cite><span class=\"datetime secondary-text\"><a href=\"http:\/\/neocatechemunal.blogspot.com\/2016\/10\/the-invalid-irregularities.html?showComment=1475631958489#c2408796489165457884\" rel=\"nofollow\">October 5, 2016 at 11:45 AM<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_51MC\" class=\"comment-content\">The definition of income is as follows: Money received, especially on a regular basis, for work or through investments. Question: Where does the NCW receive money on a regular basis?<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_51BR\" class=\"comment-replies\"><\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_51B_box\" class=\"comment-replybox-single\"><\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li id=\"bc_0_52B\" class=\"comment\">\n<div class=\"avatar-image-container\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/zFdxGE77vvD2w5xHy6jkVuElKv-U9_9qLkRYK8OnbDeJPtjSZ82UPq5w6hJ-SA=s35-w35\" alt=\"\" \/><\/div>\n<div id=\"c3627391779812051682\" class=\"comment-block\">\n<div id=\"bc_0_52M\" class=\"comment-header\"><cite class=\"user\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/10491655114379489176\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mr. Terlaje<\/a><\/cite><span class=\"datetime secondary-text\"><a href=\"http:\/\/neocatechemunal.blogspot.com\/2016\/10\/the-invalid-irregularities.html?showComment=1475633871627#c3627391779812051682\" rel=\"nofollow\">October 5, 2016 at 12:17 PM<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_52MC\" class=\"comment-content\">Dear Diana, So the income from members of the NCW (doctors and lawyers) is the source of income for the NCW? Correct? So they work for the NCW and all revenues generated by their profession is collected by the NCW. You said it, I didn&#8217;t.<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_52BR\" class=\"comment-replies\"><\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_52B_box\" class=\"comment-replybox-single\"><\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li id=\"bc_0_53B\" class=\"comment\">\n<div class=\"avatar-image-container\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/-ajwbcXvHe2k\/UwR8oEdupMI\/AAAAAAAAA7Y\/hJc7X2H9BYo\/s35\/*\" alt=\"\" \/><\/div>\n<div id=\"c747151374554520910\" class=\"comment-block\">\n<div id=\"bc_0_53M\" class=\"comment-header\"><cite class=\"user blog-author\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/13613247477141929635\" rel=\"nofollow\">Diana<\/a><\/cite><span class=\"datetime secondary-text\"><a href=\"http:\/\/neocatechemunal.blogspot.com\/2016\/10\/the-invalid-irregularities.html?showComment=1475635842443#c747151374554520910\" rel=\"nofollow\">October 5, 2016 at 12:50 PM<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_53MC\" class=\"comment-content\">\n<p>Dear Mr. Terlaje,<\/p>\n<p>Incorrect. It is their money. <b>They chose to do what they want with their income<\/b>. And they do not work for the NCW. The NCW does not pay me anything. My job in the government is the one paying me. I choose what to do with my income.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_53BR\" class=\"comment-replies\"><\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_53B_box\" class=\"comment-replybox-single\"><\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li id=\"bc_0_54B\" class=\"comment\">\n<div class=\"avatar-image-container\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/zFdxGE77vvD2w5xHy6jkVuElKv-U9_9qLkRYK8OnbDeJPtjSZ82UPq5w6hJ-SA=s35-w35\" alt=\"\" \/><\/div>\n<div id=\"c8711716866246690798\" class=\"comment-block\">\n<div id=\"bc_0_54M\" class=\"comment-header\"><cite class=\"user\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/10491655114379489176\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mr. Terlaje<\/a><\/cite><span class=\"datetime secondary-text\"><a href=\"http:\/\/neocatechemunal.blogspot.com\/2016\/10\/the-invalid-irregularities.html?showComment=1475643493556#c8711716866246690798\" rel=\"nofollow\">October 5, 2016 at 2:58 PM<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_54MC\" class=\"comment-content\">Dear Diana,<br \/>\nSo where does the iincome for the NCW come from? It doesn&#8217;t just fall out of the sky. It comes from donations from the members of the church. Income is defined as money that is earned from work, investments, business, etc.<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_54BR\" class=\"comment-replies\"><\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_54B_box\" class=\"comment-replybox-single\"><\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li id=\"bc_0_55B\" class=\"comment\">\n<div class=\"avatar-image-container\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/-ajwbcXvHe2k\/UwR8oEdupMI\/AAAAAAAAA7Y\/hJc7X2H9BYo\/s35\/*\" alt=\"\" \/><\/div>\n<div id=\"c7959334737295209492\" class=\"comment-block\">\n<div id=\"bc_0_55M\" class=\"comment-header\"><cite class=\"user blog-author\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/13613247477141929635\" rel=\"nofollow\">Diana<\/a><\/cite><span class=\"datetime secondary-text\"><a href=\"http:\/\/neocatechemunal.blogspot.com\/2016\/10\/the-invalid-irregularities.html?showComment=1475649428559#c7959334737295209492\" rel=\"nofollow\">October 5, 2016 at 4:37 PM<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<div id=\"bc_0_55MC\" class=\"comment-content\">\n<p>Dear Mr. Terlaje,<\/p>\n<p><b>The NCW does not have any income<\/b>. <b>When money is collected, it does not go to the NCW<\/b>. It goes into paying for the use of the hotel and other facilities that we use for our retreat. <b>The NCW does not collect on a regular basis the way the Church does<\/b>. The Church collects money regularly during Mass. In the NCW, we do not collect money on a regular basis. Whatever money is collected is always used up such as paying the debt of the hotel we use.&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li id=\"bc_0_55B\" class=\"comment\">\n<div id=\"bc_0_55MC\" class=\"comment-content\"><a href=\"http:\/\/neocatechemunal.blogspot.com.es\/2016\/10\/the-invalid-irregularities.html?showComment=1475643493556\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/neocatechemunal.blogspot.com.es\/2016\/10\/the-invalid-irregularities.html?showComment=1475643493556<\/a><\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Diana, do not lie, please!<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>More mistery things related with this post: incomes\/expenses of families and itinerant people in mission, for example.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.junglewatch.info\/2016\/10\/the-mistery-of-neocatechumenal-money.html%23more\">Poveznica<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>pi\u0161e LaPaz, dopisnik Jungle Watch iz \u0160panjolske. \u010citaju\u0107i danas post &#8220;Diane&#8221;, odgovorila je na neka interesantna pitanja o neokatekumenskom novcu.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[1],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2834"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=2834"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2834\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2837,"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2834\/revisions\/2837"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=2834"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=2834"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=2834"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}