{"id":2689,"date":"2016-01-10T10:25:33","date_gmt":"2016-01-10T10:25:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/?p=2689"},"modified":"2016-01-10T13:08:36","modified_gmt":"2016-01-10T13:08:36","slug":"2689","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/?p=2689","title":{"rendered":"Je li Bogu stalo?"},"content":{"rendered":"<header class=\"entry-header\">\n<h1 class=\"entry-title\"><\/h1>\n<\/header>\n<div class=\"entry-content\">\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/thoughtfulcatholic.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/kiko.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-44916\" src=\"http:\/\/thoughtfulcatholic.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/kiko-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"kiko\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" \/><\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/camineo.info\/news\/153\/ARTICLE\/35733\/2016-01-02.html\">Kikova poruka za kraj godine<\/a>\u00a0nedavno se pojavila na nekoliko pro-neokatekumenskih internet stranica i Facebook postova. \u00a0Klikni\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/camineo.info\/news\/153\/ARTICLE\/35733\/2016-01-02.html\">ovdje<\/a>, ili\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/camineonews.wordpress.com\/2016\/01\/02\/mensaje-de-kiko-arguello-por-fin-de-ano\/\">ovdje<\/a>, ili <a href=\"http:\/\/kairosterzomillennio.blogspot.com\/2016\/01\/kiko-arguello-mesaggio-di-fine-anno.html\">ovdje<\/a>\u00a0kako bi ih pro\u010ditao na originalnom \u0161panjolskom.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Kao \u0161to se i mo\u017ee o\u010dekivati, njegova poruka, premda strastvena, nije bez nekih ozbiljnih problema na koje \u0107u se osvrnuti. No najprije sama poruka:<\/p>\n<h6 style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Poruka za kraj godine Kika Arguella<\/strong><\/h6>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>S obzirom na duboku krizu dru\u0161tva, \u017eelim vam ne\u0161to re\u0107i \u0161to mo\u017eda nikad niste \u010duli do sada, \u201cBog vas ljubi\u201d, dobro slu\u0161ajte [,] Bog vas ljubi!\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em><strong>Njega nije briga <\/strong>\u0161to ste i\u0161li u bordel zato \u0161to, znate \u0161to? On nije zgro\u017een vama, on nije \u0161okiran va\u0161im grijesima, <strong>On ne mari<\/strong> za to \u0161to ste pali, pali u isti [grijeh], ne mari za te gole \u017eene u va\u0161im mislima, jer za druge vi mo\u017eete biti svinja, ali s Bogom vi ste\u00a0najvrjedniji u svijetu i svaki dan vam daje novu priliku za susret i razgovor.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>Mo\u017eda \u017eivite u stanju propasti, \u017eive\u0107i kao \u017eivotinja koja nema razuma, prljaju\u0107i svoje tijelo, imaju\u0107i partnere tu i tamo, s jednim ili drugim \u010dovjekom ili s nekoliko \u017eena. Mo\u017eda vas nije briga za Boga, mo\u017eda ste osjetili da vas On ograni\u010dava u tome kako \u017eelite \u017eivjeti, sigurno, imali ste ku\u0107e, nakit, putovanja, ali i tada, uvjeravam vas da je tu praznina, stra\u0161na samo\u0107a u va\u0161em srcu.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>Ali ja ne sudim du\u0161e, tko sam ja? Jer ja nisam dobar, ja sam gori od vas zbog toga jer sam vrije\u0111ao, lagao, mrzio! Ali Gospodin me s vremenom obnovio, On me preoblikuje u novog \u010dovjeka i to mi dopu\u0161ta da ovo navije\u0161tam danas; Vjerujte to, otvorite u\u0161i, Bog vas voli! i on je poslao svoga Sina jedinoga kako bi umro za ono \u0161to ste vi u\u010dinili, i tolika je njegova ljubav da on \u017eeli da izi\u0111ete iz onoga u \u010demu ste sada, Bog vas voli \u010dak i ako imate homoseksualne sklonosti, bez obzira kako ste isprljali svoje tijelo, On Vas voli!<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>Shva\u0107ate li? On nema uvjeta za Svoju ljubav za vas kao \u0161to to drugi imaju, prestanite prositi ljubav, prestanite pitati [,] va\u0161 vas de\u010dko voli samo malo, va\u0161a majka vas voli samo malo, \u017eivot ne\u0107e do\u0107i od njih, Bog dolazi dati vam ne \u201csamo malo ljubavi\u201d nego vam On daje svoju krv, ona vam je darovana. Iskusite istinsku sre\u0107u, pomirite se sa svojom pro\u0161lo\u0161\u0107u, sa svojim roditeljima, budete u miru s Njim i imajte puninu \u017eivota.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>Ako \u017eelite, ja vam mogu pomo\u0107i, pozivam vas da \u017eivite u zajednici i iskusite Bo\u017eje opro\u0161tenje.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Pogledajmo samo neke probleme u Kikovoj poruci.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>\u201cOn nije zgro\u017een Vama, On nije \u0161okiran va\u0161im grijesima\u201d<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Prvo, trebate znati da je Kiko Arguello majstor poluistina. Ova izjava o zgro\u017eenosti i \u0161okiranosti je jedan takav primjer. Naravno da Bog nije zgro\u017een, \u0161okiran ili skandaliziran mojim grijehom jer su to ljudske emocije. No, Kiko je zaboravio na odre\u0111ena biblijska mjesta koja opisuju Bo\u017eju reakciju na na\u0161 grijeh vrlo ljudskim izrazima kako bi se naglasila \u010dinjenica da se na\u0161i pojedini grijesi itekako ti\u010du Boga. Evo nekih primjera:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>\u201c<span class=\"selected\">Vidje Gospodin\u00a0kako je \u010dovjekova pokvarenost na zemlji velika i kako je svaka pomisao u njegovoj pameti uvijek samo zlo\u0107a.\u00a0Gospodin\u00a0<\/span>se pokaja i u svom srcu ra\u017ealosti \u0161to je na\u010dinio \u010dovjeka na zemlji.\u201d <a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=Genesis+6%3A5-6&amp;version=NABRE\">Post 6, 5-6<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">ili<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>\u201c<span class=\"Stih1\">Jest, k\u2019o \u017eenu ostavljenu, u du\u0161i ucviljenu,\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"Stih2\">Jahve te pozvao.\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"Stih1\">Zar se smije otpustiti \u017eena svoje mladosti,\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"Stih2\">pita Bog tvoj.<\/span>\u201d \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=Isaiah+54%3A6&amp;version=RSVCE\">Iz 54, 6<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">ili<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>\u201cBog je pravedan sudac,\u00a0on povazdan prijeti.\u201d\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=psalm+7%3A11&amp;version=RSVCE\">Ps 7, 12<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>\u201cNjega nije briga \u0161to si i\u0161ao u bordel\u201d<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u0160to s djevojkama u javnoj ku\u0107i i \u0161tetom koja je njima u\u010dinjena? Je li Bogu stalo do njih? \u00a0Naravno da jest. Bogu je stalo do njih.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Je li Bogu stalo do boli koja je nane\u0161ena \u017eeni i \u0161tete u\u010denjene braku i obitelji od strane mu\u017ea koji posje\u0107uje bordel? Naravno da je stalo. Bogu je stalo.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>\u201cOn ne brine oko tvoga pada, pada u isti grijeh\u201d<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Je li Bogu stalo do grijeha \u010dovjeka koji je \u201c<em>pao u njega i pao u<\/em>\u201d grijeh silovanja? \u00a0Bi li Bogu stalo do \u017ertava silovatelja? \u00a0Naravno! \u00a0A silovanje nije jedini grijeh koji se osve\u0107uje velikim zlom. Svi grijesi to \u010dine, i Bogu je stalo.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>\u201cOn me preoblikuje [Kiko] u novog \u010dovjeka\u201d<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u0160to drugo mogu re\u0107i nego to da sam vam <a href=\"http:\/\/thoughtfulcatholic.com\/?page_id=766\">ovdje<\/a>\u00a0predstavio dokaze da je Kiko varalica i torbar koji zavodi milijune.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>\u201cOn nema uvjete za Svoju\u00a0ljubav za vas\u201d<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Ovo zvu\u010di poput <a href=\"http:\/\/thoughtfulcatholic.com\/?page_id=44446\">neokatekumenskog katehiste na Guamu koji ka\u017ee da \u201cBog ni\u0161ta ne zahtijeva.\u201d<\/a>\u00a0 Bog nas nikad ne prestaje ljubiti, ali sigurno nam postavlja uvjete kako bismo ostali u stanju milosti.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>\u201cJa vam mogu pomo\u0107i, pozivam vas da \u017eivite u zajednici \u201d<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Kiko je bio oprezan da ne spomene ni\u0161ta o <a href=\"http:\/\/thoughtfulcatholic.com\/?page_id=43796\">podlaganju autoritetu njegovih katehista <\/a>dok su \u201cu zajednici\u201d. \u00a0Na kraju, ono \u0161to Kiko stvarno ho\u0107e jest to da se pridru\u017eite njegovoj sekti.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>pi\u0161e Chuck White<\/em><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>References<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Kiko\u2019s message appeared in Spanish and Italian on these pro-Neocatechumenal sites:<\/p>\n<ul style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/camineo.info\/news\/153\/ARTICLE\/35733\/2016-01-02.html\">http:\/\/camineo.info\/news\/153\/ARTICLE\/35733\/2016-01-02.html<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/camineonews.wordpress.com\/2016\/01\/02\/mensaje-de-kiko-arguello-por-fin-de-ano\/\">https:\/\/camineonews.wordpress.com\/2016\/01\/02\/mensaje-de-kiko-arguello-por-fin-de-ano\/<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/kairosterzomillennio.blogspot.com\/2016\/01\/kiko-arguello-mesaggio-di-fine-anno.html\">http:\/\/kairosterzomillennio.blogspot.com\/2016\/01\/kiko-arguello-mesaggio-di-fine-anno.html<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/Camino.Neocatecumenal.1964\/posts\/452758058268844\">https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/Camino.Neocatecumenal.1964\/posts\/452758058268844<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">It also appeared\u00a0on this Anti-Neo site:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/cruxsancta.blogspot.com\/2015\/11\/doctrina-neocatecumenal-sobre-lo.html\">http:\/\/cruxsancta.blogspot.com\/2015\/11\/doctrina-neocatecumenal-sobre-lo.html<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Kikova poruka za kraj godine\u00a0nedavno se pojavila na nekoliko pro-neokatekumenskih internet stranica i Facebook postova. \u00a0Klikni\u00a0ovdje, ili\u00a0ovdje, ili ovdje\u00a0kako bi<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[1],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2689"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=2689"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2689\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2695,"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2689\/revisions\/2695"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=2689"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=2689"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=2689"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}