{"id":1131,"date":"2009-07-22T14:11:36","date_gmt":"2009-07-22T14:11:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/paxtibi.net\/?p=1131"},"modified":"2009-07-22T14:19:32","modified_gmt":"2009-07-22T14:19:32","slug":"na-koji-nacin-neokatekumeni-prema-posljednjim-kikovim-uputama-primaju-pricest","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/?p=1131","title":{"rendered":"Na koji na\u010din neokatekumeni, prema posljednjim Kikovim uputama, primaju Pri\u010dest?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt; mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt; mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">Kako na dostojan na\u010din podijeljivati Pri\u010dest.<\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\"><span style=\"mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Pri\u010dest na koljenima garantira pobo\u017enost i osje\u0107aj za sveto. Odre\u0111eni neozbiljni na\u010dini podjeljivanja ovog sakramenta pokazuju gubitak osje\u0107aja za sveto. Vjernici ne smiju sami uzimati Kale\u017e i Hostiju budu\u0107i da je to ozbiljna zloporaba. <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><span style=\"mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify; line-height: 150%; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">20. 7. 2009.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify; line-height: 150%; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Pontifex Roma<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify; line-height: 150%; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify; line-height: 150%; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Kako treba na dostojan na\u010din podjeljivati Pri\u010dest? Pitali smo teologa i cijenjenog liturgi\u010dara mons. Nicolu Buxa.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>To mo\u017ee biti rijedak slu\u010daj, ali modernizam i povr\u0161nost odre\u0111enih postkoncilskih tuma\u010denja doveli su do takvog podcjenjivanja ovog sakramenta da postoji \u010ditav niz na\u010dina na koji mu ljudi pristupaju&#8230;<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify; line-height: 150%; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify; line-height: 150%; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Don Bux, koji je najispravniji na\u010din pri\u010de\u0161\u0107ivanja?<img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignright\" title=\"La comunione in ginocchio garantisce raccogliento  e senso del sacro. Certe forme disivolte di amministrare il sacramento denotano perdita del sacro. Il fedele non pu\u00f2  prendere da solo il calice  e l'ostia, un abuso grave\" src=\"http:\/\/www.pontifex.roma.it\/images\/stories\/nicolabux.gif\" border=\"0\" alt=\"La comunione in ginocchio garantisce raccogliento  e senso del sacro. Certe forme disivolte di amministrare il sacramento denotano perdita del sacro. Il fedele non pu\u00f2  prendere da solo il calice  e l'ostia, un abuso grave\" width=\"150\" height=\"230\" align=\"left\" \/><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify; line-height: 150%; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify; line-height: 150%; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">\u201eRekao bih da postoje dva na\u010dina. Postoji na\u010din gdje netko stoji primaju\u0107i Hostiju u usta, ili kle\u010di na koljenima. <strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\">Ne vidim ikakvog tre\u0107eg na\u010dina<\/strong>.\u201c<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify; line-height: 150%; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify; line-height: 150%; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Postoji na\u010din primanja stoje\u0107i.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify; line-height: 150%; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify; line-height: 150%; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">\u201eDobro, nemam ni\u0161ta protiv toga. Va\u017eno je da su vjernici intimno svjesni \u0161to je ono \u0161to \u0107e primiti, tj. da ne pristupaju pri\u010desti s neozbiljno\u0161\u0107u koja pokazuje nezrelost i potpunu distanciranost od Boga.\u201c<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify; line-height: 150%; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify; line-height: 150%; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Pri\u010dest stoje\u0107i, ali koji je najbolji na\u010din pri\u010de\u0161\u0107ivanja?<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify; line-height: 150%; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify; line-height: 150%; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">\u201eGledajte, \u010dak i primanje Pri\u010desti stoje\u0107i mo\u017ee biti sasvim pobo\u017eno, skru\u0161eno&#8230; i dobro je imati osje\u0107aj za Sveto. Bilo bi jako dobro i prikladno, bez sumnje, u\u010diniti formalni znak po\u0161tovanja prije pri\u010desti (\u010dak i ako se prima stoje\u0107i), \u0161to zna\u010di <strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\">kod \u017eena pokrivena glava, znak kri\u017ea ili mali naklon u znak ljubavi.\u201c <\/strong><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify; line-height: 150%; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify; line-height: 150%; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Ali iz kojeg razloga ljudi \u010desto pristupaju Pri\u010desti kao da je to nekakav buffet?<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify; line-height: 150%; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify; line-height: 150%; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">\u201e<strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\">Svi\u0111a mi se taj izraz i on je djelomi\u010dno ispravan<\/strong>. Mnoge osobe ustaju mehani\u010dki i stvarno ne znaju ili \u010dak ne mogu ni zamisliti \u0161to \u0107e primiti. Oni misle da je sudjelovanje na misi ne\u0161to \u0161to automatski uklju\u010duje Pri\u010dest i da moraju pristupiti i primiti je, iako je istina da samo oni koji su u milosti Bo\u017ejoj smiju to \u010diniti.\u201c <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify; line-height: 150%; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify; line-height: 150%; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">U posljednjim misama papa Benedikt XVI. podjeljivao je Pri\u010dest samo onima koji su kle\u010dali.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify; line-height: 150%; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify; line-height: 150%; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">\u201eDa, s punim pravom je to \u010dinio. Vjerujem da kle\u010danje kod primanja Pri\u010desti poma\u017ee kako bi se \u010dovjek bolje sabrao i prihvatio otajstvo s vi\u0161e po\u0161tovanja. <strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\">Kleknuti pred Tijelom Kristovim je \u010din nezaslu\u017eene ljubavi i poniznosti pred Bogom, i ovaj smisao svetoga se rijetko razumije. U na\u0161e vrijeme to je ve\u0107inom prepu\u0161teno slu\u010daju i izgubljeno ili gotovo nestalo.\u201c<\/strong><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify; line-height: 150%; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify; line-height: 150%; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Sve u svemu, pri\u010dest kle\u010de\u0107i poma\u017ee duhu?<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify; line-height: 150%; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify; line-height: 150%; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">\u201eDa, sigurno, ono favorizira pobo\u017enost i duhovnost. <strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\">Vjerujem da kle\u010danje tijekom pri\u010desti jest ono koje najbolje odgovara Svetome.\u201c<\/strong><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify; line-height: 150%; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify; line-height: 150%; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">A primanje na ruku?<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify; line-height: 150%; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify; line-height: 150%; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">\u201e\u017dao mi je \u0161to moram re\u0107i, ali ne postoji tekst u Tradiciji koji podr\u017eava takvu praksu. \u010cak ni onda ako svi tako primaju i jedu na taj na\u010din. Ne postoji tekst koji se odnosi na to, i ako ho\u0107emo mogli bismo re\u0107i da su apostoli bili sve\u0107enici i stoga su imali pravo uzimati pri\u010dest rukama. Isto\u010dna Crkva ne dopu\u0161ta takvu praksu.\u201c <\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify; line-height: 150%; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify; line-height: 150%; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">U jednoj crkvi u Rimu, tzv. Caravita, obi\u010dno puna, osobito \u010dlanovima meksi\u010dke katoli\u010dke zajednice, jedan isusova\u010dki sve\u0107enik osobno podjeljuje pri\u010dest svojim vjernicima na na\u010din da hostiju umo\u010di u kale\u017e, nije li to istina?<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify; line-height: 150%; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify; line-height: 150%; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">\u201eDa, to je najozbiljnija i neprihvatljiva zloporaba, za koju je dobro da ste mi kazali i za koju treba obavijestiti biskupa, on to mora znati. U paragrafima 88. i 94. (Redemptoris Sacramentum) jasno se ka\u017ee da nije dozvoljeno vjernicima da sami uzimaju hostiju, ili da dodaju kale\u017e jedan drugome. <strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\">Mislim da takva pri\u010dest nije valjana<\/strong> (non sia valida). Prou\u010dit \u0107u problem, <strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\">ali govorimo o nedopustivoj zloporabi koju moramo suzbiti \u0161to prije to bolje.\u201c <\/strong><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify; line-height: 150%; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify; line-height: 150%; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Bruno Volpe <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify; line-height: 150%; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify; line-height: 150%; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.pontifex.roma.it\/index.php\/interviste\/religiosi\/2470-la-comunione-in-ginocchio-garantisce-raccogliento-e-senso-del-sacro-certe-forme-disivolte-di-amministrare-il-sacramento-denotano-perdita-del-sacro-il-fedele-non-puo-prendere-da-solo-il-calice-e-lostia-un-abuso-grave\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Link<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify; line-height: 150%; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify; line-height: 150%; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: HR;\" lang=\"HR\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Kako na dostojan na\u010din podijeljivati Pri\u010dest. \u00a0 Pri\u010dest na koljenima garantira pobo\u017enost i osje\u0107aj za sveto. Odre\u0111eni neozbiljni na\u010dini<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[1],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1131"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1131"}],"version-history":[{"count":10,"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1131\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1133,"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1131\/revisions\/1133"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1131"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1131"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1131"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}