{"id":1008,"date":"2009-06-04T15:23:58","date_gmt":"2009-06-04T15:23:58","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/paxtibi.net\/?p=1008"},"modified":"2009-06-04T15:23:58","modified_gmt":"2009-06-04T15:23:58","slug":"danijelovo-svjedocanstvo","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/?p=1008","title":{"rendered":"Danijelovo svjedo\u010danstvo"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a style=\"DISPLAY: block\" href=\"http:\/\/neocatecumenali.blogspot.com\/\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" id=\"Header1_headerimg\" style=\"DISPLAY: block\" src=\"http:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/_bhVQI2wa-40\/SVajc1Y7W9I\/AAAAAAAAAE0\/zr3Bc-pSajE\/S1600-R\/Immagine.jpg\" alt=\"LA   VERITA\\\" width=\"352\" height=\"95\" \/> <\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText2\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt\"><em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal\"><span lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">Ni\u0161ta nova na istoku, ne mogu ni\u0161ta istaknuti u ovom svjedo\u010danstvu, nego samo potvrditi ono \u0161to je ve\u0107 izlagano i objavljivano.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><span style=\"mso-ansi-language: HR\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><span style=\"mso-ansi-language: HR\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">Problem Nekatekumenskog puta su doktrinalna zastranjenja njegova utemeljitelja, preno\u0161ena kroz kateheze svim prista\u0161ama pokreta.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><span style=\"mso-ansi-language: HR\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><span style=\"mso-ansi-language: HR\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">Papino odobrenje statuta ni\u0161ta ne garantira. Ima potvr\u0111enih kongregacija, postoje stolje\u0107ima, utemeljeni od sveca (a ne od slabo vrednovanog slikara koji je teolog improvizator), ali to ne zna\u010di da danas jedan dobar dio njihovih \u010dlanova ne mari za pravovjernost i prijanjanje uz U\u010diteljstvo Crkve. Stoga nemojmo zaboraviti da je Papa potvrdio samo i isklju\u010divo to \u0161to je sadr\u017eano u statutima. Sve ostalo \u2013 kateheze, \u00abprijelazi\u00bb, liturgija, itd. \u2013 bija\u0161e i ostaje u tajnosti. Zatim je, ne samo zakonito, nego tako\u0111er, i du\u017enost kritizirati kada iz toga proizlaze upe\u010datljiva neslaganja s obzirom na sveti nauk.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><span style=\"mso-ansi-language: HR\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><span style=\"mso-ansi-language: HR\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u017dar nije po sebi demonstracija dobra. On mo\u017ee biti dobar i zao, ve\u0107 prema tome koji mu je uzrok. Neke protestantske sekte imaju \u017ear (barem prividan, vanjski) koji mi ne mo\u017eemo niti zamisliti, ali to ne zna\u010di da su u istini ili da njihov primjer treba slijediti. \u017dar nalazimo u odre\u0111enom smislu tako\u0111er na koncertima pjeva\u010da, budu\u0107i da stoje zajedno, pokret i pjeva\u010d stvaraju dobre osje\u0107aje (usput, neokatekumenske liturgije koriste istu tehniku). Izme\u0111u ostalog, u panorami crkvene suho\u0107e i rasto\u010denosti kakva je ova danas, evidentno je da svaka grupa zdru\u017euje uvjerljivost i krajnji \u017ear vi\u0161e nego sve ostalo. To \u0161to Crkva u nekim podru\u010djima mora zahvaliti Putu za zvanja, pokazatelj je najni\u017ee razine na koju se je spustila na\u0161a sveta vjera.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><span style=\"mso-ansi-language: HR\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><span style=\"mso-ansi-language: HR\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">Ja sam, prije godinu dana, bio na neokatekumenskoj misi. Slavio ju je sve\u0107enik u \u010diju pravovjernost ne sumnjam. U trenutku pri\u010desti, sjedio sam na svom mjestu i primio komad vla\u017enog beskvasnog kruha. Ali nisam se mogao pri\u010destiti odmah: morao sam pri\u010dekati da ga prime svi ostali, koji uvijek sijede i &#8216;poslu\u017eeni&#8217; su od sve\u0107enika ili od izvanrednog slu\u017eitelja. U me\u0111uvremenu skru\u0161enost? mir? \u0161tovanje? Sve suprotno od toga. Smjeh, \u0161ale, izreke o karakteristikama &#8216;komadi\u0107a kruha&#8217; koje su primili: previ\u0161e vla\u017ean, previ\u0161e mali, \u010dudna forma. Kada sam napokon mogao konzumirati komadi\u0107, opazio sam da jedan dio kruha, jako vla\u017ean, bija\u0161e mi ostao zalijepljen na ruci, zajedno sa raznolikim komadi\u0107ima. Stavio sam sve u usta, ali nisam vidio nikog drugog da tako \u010dini. To je sada daleko od poimanja vjere koju danas imam, sje\u0107am se ove epizode kao poni\u017eavaju\u0107eg i sramnog momenta moga katoli\u010dkog \u017eivota.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><span style=\"mso-ansi-language: HR\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><span style=\"mso-ansi-language: HR\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">Sad se pitam: a \u010demu slu\u017ei ustrajati, na nasilan na\u010din, u takozvanoj \u00abotvorenosti \u017eivotu\u00bb (stvar uostalom najhvaljenija, tako\u0111er iako je od njih tuma\u010dena na ekstreman i nerazuman na\u010din), i uz to bez skrupula nalagati djela nepo\u0161tivanja prema na\u0161em Gospodinu kojih bi se sramio \u010dak i mlak adolescent kao \u0161to sam ja? Nije mi dakle na pameti da, ako neokatekumeni to \u010dine, da to \u010dine zbog toga \u0161to imaju \u017ear vjere, nego jer sa \u017earom slu\u0161aju mi\u0161ljenja njihova utemeljitelja, prenesena njima kroz kateheze? Tako je, na\u017ealost. Kiko govori da je nauk o Euharistiji srednjovjekovni izum? Pobo\u017enost euharistijskih procesija s Presvetim. Kiko govori da treba stvarati toliku djecu? U\u010dinimo tolike. Za\u0161to? Jer je on to rekao.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><span style=\"mso-ansi-language: HR\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><span style=\"mso-ansi-language: HR\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">Poslije pet godina na Putu, jedna moja prijateljica ne poznaje niti abecedu katoli\u010dkog nauka. Umjesto toga prou\u010dava Kikov nauk o zajednici, izvje\u0161taj da se zadr\u017ei u zajednici, osobito ljubav prema zajednici. <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><span style=\"mso-ansi-language: HR\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><span style=\"mso-ansi-language: HR\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">Za ljubav, toliki su u dobroj vjeri, toliki su koji se mogu spasiti. Ali uz uvjet radikalne promjene smjera koji \u0107e se posti\u0107i samo kada utemeljitelj umre. Prije je nemogu\u0107e.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><span style=\"mso-ansi-language: HR\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><span style=\"mso-ansi-language: HR\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">___________<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><span style=\"mso-ansi-language: HR\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><em><span style=\"mso-ansi-language: HR\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">Na ovu zadnju tvrdnju, s kojom se sla\u017eu mnogi u Kuriji, odgovor je bio slijede\u0107i:<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><em><span style=\"mso-ansi-language: HR\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><span lang=\"HR\"><em><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">(Bez obzira na na\u010din kako rije\u0161iti problem koji postavlja Put, imperativ odgovornosti uklju\u010duje odgovaraju\u0107u intervenciju, umjesto stra\u0161ljive pasivnosti koja stavlja sve (nerealno) u Bo\u017eje ruke, i bilo kako bilo, nije pravo \u010dekati sutra da bi se odgovorilo na problem koji je sada tako silan i goru\u0107i i koji tra\u017ei na\u0161u odgovornost)<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><span style=\"mso-ansi-language: HR\" lang=\"HR\"><em><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><span style=\"mso-ansi-language: HR\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00abKiko je iznutra zao, utemeljio je vije\u0107e od 40 sve\u0107enika mudraca (jedna vrsta Sinedrija), katehista, prve ure, takozvani \u00abnesvodljivi\u00bb koji su sto puta tvrdokorniji od njega, koji imaju zada\u0107u \u010cUVATI PUT od kvarenja i demonskog uplitanja tj. od onih koji su protiv, pa taman to jednoga dana bio i PAPA osobno\u2026za ove zanesenjake, uvijek \u0107e biti \u0111avao\u2026 u lice poslu\u0161nosti\u2026 40 su i \u010detrdeset moraju ostati, vezani su \u017eivotom i kada jedan umre mora biti zamijenjen uz suglasnost svih! Kiko je \u010dovjek koji posreduje kod biskupa i Pape (iako to <span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0<\/span>mo\u017ee izgledati paradoksalno) onako kako ga prekori sinedrij arogantno i zapovjedni\u010dki (tipi\u010dno za ove zanesenjake); \u00abKIKO put nije tvoj nego Isusa Krista\u00bb\u2026<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><span style=\"mso-ansi-language: HR\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">ONI BI \u017dELJELI \u010cINITI JO\u0160 GORE NEGO \u0160TO \u010cINE. Budu\u0107nost ne\u0107e biti bolja NEGO BIT \u0106E GORA! I to je ono \u0161to \u017eelim re\u0107i!\u00bb<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><span style=\"mso-ansi-language: HR\" lang=\"HR\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\"><\/span><\/span><\/span>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><span style=\"mso-ansi-language: HR\" lang=\"HR\"><a href=\"http:\/\/neocatecumenali.blogspot.com\/2009\/05\/testimonianza-di-daniele.html\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">Link<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><span style=\"mso-ansi-language: HR\" lang=\"HR\"><\/span>\u00a0<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00a0 Ni\u0161ta nova na istoku, ne mogu ni\u0161ta istaknuti u ovom svjedo\u010danstvu, nego samo potvrditi ono \u0161to je ve\u0107 izlagano<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[1],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1008"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1008"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1008\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1010,"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1008\/revisions\/1010"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1008"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1008"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.paxtibi.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1008"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}